A few points:

The main body of the LCC and its practical application, including all 4 published versions of Book 1 with their inserts: the 1959 tan cover; the 1959 light green cover Japanese edition; the 1970‘s white cover, which adds an illustrated River Trip to the 1959 edition, and the currently available Fourth Edition, 2001.

The authorization code is the first word on Page 198 of the Fourth Edition of the LCCTO.

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A few points:

Postby guitarjazz » Mon May 23, 2011 2:41 pm

1. The Concept isn't something you believe in or don't believe in. The phrase 'believe in' has actually been used on the forum. It's something you find useful or don't.
2. The Concept doesn't need to be defended. As Ben pointed out to me when I attended the LCC workshop in '88, 'everybody has a concept'. Wayne has a concept. Even Jeff Brent has a concept. I know Dogbite has one!
3. George was a composer/musician of the highest order. Bill Evans called him the 'greatest jazz composer behind Duke Ellington' or something to that effect. He was a badass and nice enough to share a small portion of his musical thoughts with us in LCC.
4. One needn't toss out their library of music theory books and acoustics books because they own a copy of the LCC.
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Postby NateComp » Thu May 26, 2011 4:12 pm

"Before studying Zen, mountains are just mountains, and water is just water. When studying Zen for the first time, mountains are no longer
mountains, and water is no longer water. After studying Zen longer, mountains are just mountains, and water is just water."

I think ML hit the nail on the head. I think that the whole point of ANY study is to open the door that allows ideas to come out of you instantly and easily. And when that DOES happen, then you don't have to defend ANYTHING to anyone. Period.
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Re: A few points:

Postby Fer Carranza » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:59 pm

In a board sense I think you are right. But I think anyway that modern educators believe in LCC but for not be labeled like LCC defenders they simply denied on it, but in his books one can see the subtle influence of this revolutionary way to understand music. In example, every educator point #11 to use in a improvisation over a Maj7 chord, against the 11th. of the chord, and so on. There is a great amount of hypocrisy in this ambient I think.
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