Page 1 of 1

Is there any software that works with the concept?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:03 pm
by znmeb
I'm wondering if there's any software out there that can assist composers using the Lydian Chromatic Concept. Open source is strongly preferred. If there isn't, I'll probably take a shot at writing some for my own use. Does anyone here know of existing LCCTO software?

Ed Borasky

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:22 pm
by dds1234
To be honest, I highly doubt it. What aspect are you interested in though? Labeling on sheet music? That's basically all I can think of in a compositional manner...

If you write in C++ I'm pretty sure it would be quite easy to write a plugin for Sibelius for labeling and such...

-You could always write code/contribute to Lilypond! (Freeware/GNU license.)

(Ranting sorry, did I help at all?)

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:44 pm
by znmeb
dds1234 wrote:To be honest, I highly doubt it. What aspect are you interested in though? Labeling on sheet music? That's basically all I can think of in a compositional manner...

If you write in C++ I'm pretty sure it would be quite easy to write a plugin for Sibelius for labeling and such...

-You could always write code/contribute to Lilypond! (Freeware/GNU license.)

(Ranting sorry, did I help at all?)
Yeah, that does help a little. I have a Windows system, but no Mac, and my preferred modus operandi is openSUSE Linux. I'm strictly a studio musician / algorithmic composer. I have been interested in jazz and electronic music / algorithmic composition for a long time.

About a week ago, I was listening to the local jazz station and heard Russell's "Electronic Sonata for Souls Loved by Nature". My first reaction was, "How did I not know of this?" So I did a little digging, discovered that Russell had recently passed away, and that he had developed a musical theory I had never heard of, and that said theory has inspired jazz musicians since the late 1950s! So now I own the CD, the book, and am itching to start using it.

I don't do C++; my best languages are Perl and Ruby. So far the most promising open source package I've found is something out of Harvey Mudd College called "Impro-Visor". It's in Java so it will run nearly everywhere, and it's GPL. http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~keller/jazz/improvisor/

I've got it downloaded and I'm going to see how easy it would be to create data for the LCCTO with it. Watch this space. ;-)

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:56 pm
by dds1234
Sounds delicious!! :D

I'm curious, what type of addition were you planning on writing for it?

Have you ever heard of the ear-training software GNU solfege? It has contributed to my musical knowledge/vocabulary almost as much as studying and practicing the concept! It's so thorough!

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:04 pm
by znmeb
dds1234 wrote:Sounds delicious!! :D

I'm curious, what type of addition were you planning on writing for it?

Have you ever heard of the ear-training software GNU solfege? It has contributed to my musical knowledge/vocabulary almost as much as studying and practicing the concept! It's so thorough!
Yeah, the GNU Solfege software is in openSUSE. I got Impro-Visor up on my machine, and interestingly enough, it has "vocabularies" for most, if not all, of the musicians influenced by Russell -- Coltrane, Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman, etc. So perhaps there's a common underlying structure that could be extracted.

So the plan is to lock myself in a room with Impro-Visor for a week and see what it does. I'm pretty sure I can get it to the point where I'd at least be able to play flute along with it on some standards. It can make MIDI output, so I should be able to get pure composition from it as well.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:00 pm
by znmeb
motherlode wrote:Algorithmic composer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_music

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:57 am
by bobappleton
hey znmeb: it's been talked about around here... but never done... until now... good luck