Golden Ratio and Music

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Golden Ratio and Music

Postby Andrew » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:28 pm

I'm wondering if any of you has studied the Golden Ratio and its effects on music. I just barely discovered that there is research relating music to the golden ratio. What I've heard so far is come composers either conscious or unconscious use of the ratio in determining where to present the climax of a piece.
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Postby bobappleton » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:20 pm

Yes I have. Great subject.

I like to think the Golden Ratio has roughly the same meaning to an artist as the Overtone Series has to a musician (even though they're mathematically different).

The proportion 1:3 is a good place to start. In an image that's foreground, mid-ground and background, or in Jazz ABA.

If you include The Fibonacci Series you can add Stockhausen, Cage and Xenakis to the list of musicians - and it goes on from there.

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Postby bobappleton » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:43 pm

Just to clarify my reference to 1:3. If you look at the drawings of DaVinci's profile, the Golden Section or the Golden Ratio in Wikipedia's Golden Ratio section, you'll see that these images have (approximately) 3 equal parts.
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Postby dds1234 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:42 pm

So, I was listening to an album of environmental sounds and... To my surprise it followed, in climactic context, the golden ratio dead on!

Golden ratio in nature!?
-I think not, I suppose that it was chosen as the main track for this reason.

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