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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:50 pm
by sandywilliams
Does it matter if you start on a downbeat or upbeat?
When you sayâ€

be bop

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:36 am
by bobappleton
that's beautiful.

i still remember the first lesson when my teacher showed me a bebop scale. i was like 40 at the time - and i was shocked. it didn't seem possible that the music i'd loved had come from this simple alteration of the order of notes played.

c parker. wow.

ps: there is a funny ps to this - since you knew miles. when i taught at the university of bridgeport (during some of it's darkest years) there was a young man who was introduced to me as a nephew of miles. he'd heard that i was teaching design classes using george russell's river-trip diagram and other jazz references.

so he used a technique taught him by his uncle to give me a new name. my "normal" name became bebopple. so from bob appleton we drop the unneccessary tone (or ton) and switch things around a little. it's just too beautiful not to share.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:05 pm
by bobappleton
motherlode,

i'd wanted to ask about your take on the other bebop scales - i've seen different formulas for them. and you gave us the major. but what about the minor, etc?

thanks a lot!

bob

Re: Lydian meets Be-bop

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:00 pm
by Bob
motherlode wrote:arker discovered a NEW WAY to connect the notes...the "1/2 step rule".

The rule: the scale is divided into odd (1 3 5 7) & even (2 4 6) scale steps. (descending only) THE ODD RULE: If you start on a *1*, add a 1/2 step @ 6-5; If you start on *3*5* -or- *7*, add 1/2 step @ 6-5, 3-1, 2-1

(descending only) THE EVEN RULE: If you start on *2*, do NOT add anything;(or) If you start on *2*4*-or-*6* add 1/2 step @6-5, 2-1.

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If you start on a *1*, add a 1/2 step @ 6-5;
I'm guessing in C this would be C B A Ab G.
If you start on *3*5* -or- *7*, add 1/2 step @ 6-5, 3-1, 2-1

I'm not sure i get your meaning here. could you write an example in C?
Similarly with
If you start on *2*, do NOT add anything;(or) If you start on *2*4*-or-*6* add 1/2 step @6-5, 2-1.
Sorry if I'm a little thick here.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:57 am
by Bob
Ding! The light goes on. I think I was reading hidden meaning into the **s.

This definitely helps my Quixotic adventure into Bass Land.

Thanks.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:42 pm
by sandywilliams
ML,
Thank you for the clarification! Would love to hear about triplets and such.
SW

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:57 pm
by sandywilliams
No problem at all. I appreciate all your posts. You inspire me to cook up some new dishes.